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A framework for sorting how people use language, building on Venkatesh Rao's essay series The Gervais Principle (about the TV show The Office), adapted here to dating and everyday life.

Three kinds of talk

Straight talk
Language used purely to pass on information. "Where's the station?" "What were the test results?" Everyone uses it sometimes.
Power talk
Language used to get something, not to inform. It can be true or false as needed, and it's always deniable.
Game talk
Like power talk (true or false, deniable), but aimed inward, at making the speaker feel a certain way rather than achieving something outside.

Three kinds of people

Following Rao's labels:

  • Power players (Rao's "sociopaths"): fluent in power talk.
  • The naive (Rao's "clueless"): use straight talk all the time and take power talk at face value.
  • Cynics (Rao's "losers"): see that power talk exists but resent it as immoral instead of learning it. They mix straight talk with game talk.

The post's conclusions

  • The author claims women are generally more fluent in power talk than men: things are said to get a result, and whether they're true is secondary.
  • When unsuccessful, women tend to fall back on game talk (managing their feelings), and men on straight talk (believing what they're told and reacting to it).
  • The only reliable way to tell skilled power talk from straight talk is to watch what people do, not what they say.
  • Red Pill discussion is, in the author's words, "straight talk about power talk": openly explaining a system whose first rule is that it's never admitted. He suggests that's why the techniques work while the open discussion of them is unpopular, and why such discussion belongs in private rather than in confrontations.

The original post also applied the framework to feminist slogans about consent. That argument isn't repeated here. Whatever the theory, consent is always required.

See also

Summary of a post originally shared on Reddit's r/TheRedPill, discussing Venkatesh Rao's "The Gervais Principle".

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