Survival Guide For Online Dating

A few words first....

I've been doing online sarging for about a year now, I tested out a lot of routines and found out what works and what not. So I figured I should share them to help out those in the forum that haven't had any luck so far. Especially those that live in US.

A little about myself, I'm a decent 8 on the scale of 10 Asian male, I ain't rich, I'm not a genius either. Being Asian did put me at disadvantage, it's quite hard to go against the AFC Asian stereotype and pull off a BELIEVABLE natural alpha male frame. However, I did my best and overcame that, now it actually works in my favor, they indeed become quite fascinated and curious to find out about me when getting picked up by such a confident Asian who defies everything they expect to find in such stereotypes. Enough bragging huh? :lol:Why does this matter? If I can pull it off, meaning you yes, the white, African American, or Hispanic that are usually accompanied with strong alpha male stereotype can definitely do better than me.

I won't go over how to make an interesting profile, if you still don't know how, there are bunch of post in this forum that can point you to the right direction. This guide will focus more on how to land a date QUICKLY with the LEAST effort. And I'll also cover the 3 most popular dating sites in US: POF, OKC, and MyYearBook.

Getting started...

First, let's assume that you have a decent profile with nice pictures and give off a cool vibe instead of creepy. Now here comes the fun part, sending messages to the girls. You have to be proactive in this phrase, meaning you have to send out and initiate all the contact. Most of the time those girls won't message you first, even the fat ugly ones, unless you're fucking George Clooney, but of course if that is the case, why the fuck are you on dating sites?

I will tell you what routine that I found yielding the best result so far. But let's cover the basic in the mean time. It doesn't matter what I tell you, it would just be a mean to start off. You do need to work on INNER game and so on. When I started out, I landed couple first date, however I would never heard from them again. So I asked myself why? One day I decided to call up one of the girl, and she picked up, we chat, had small talk. Then I asked her why didn't it work out for us, she told me she found my personality in real life isn't congruent with the one I gave off from the profile.

Suck doesn't it? The whole "fake it till you make it" only get you so far, eventually your true frame will come out. So what do I really mean? DO NOT COPY WORDS FROM WORDS, add a little of your touch and personality in the profile and during messages exchanging. I know those routines are magic! But in the long run, they will hurt you if you can't back them up.

Here comes the important part....

This is the routine I'm using now, and had quite a high success rate, I would say around 7 out of 10. It's based off the Apocalypse Opener, however I twisted it a bit to suit my personality.

''''First message:

Make it a FUN test, RANDOM question!!!

Ex: Serious question.... you can only pick one, don't cheat! M&M, Skittles or blah blah blah?

Personally I would throw in a strawberry among those choice, because if you've heard of the strawberry field test from the Kokology book, it represents.... wait for it.... SEX. They dont know about it, but you do. This is IMPORTANT because now you can gauge how hard it is to get in their pants.

Of course, if you're not after the pure physical sex, you can put in choices that represent the trait you're looking for in a girl.

The point is make it FUN, RANDOM and CASUAL. I can't stress enough about this part, and please DO NOT ASK something creepy such as "doggy, missionary or cowgirl?"

Second message:

Here there are really only two options:

A. She picked one. Now what? Say anything, you can tease her choice, or you can make her qualify for it, it's up to you. I usually always LEAVE them wanting MORE. I would say something like "Actually those represent for certain popular traits in chicks... What an odd ...but interesting choice..." then I throw in another of my favorite THE ROLLERCOASTER kokology test which if you don't know, is test to find out the detailed break down of her sex life. But really ANY COLD READING ROUTINE works! I used that because again I want to gauge her sex drive.

B. She's being a smart ass and doesn't pick any of your choice, or picked something that not among them. It rarely happens, I only had 2 girls who did this so far. Now in this case, you tease her and make her quality herself, or you can just IGNORE it like handling a shit test and go on with your next test or cold reading.

Third message:

It doesn't matter what the FUCK she responded your second message with. THROW IN the Apocalypse Opener following by something you like about her.

"You're blah blah blah! Do you wanna come home with me tonight? ;)"

In my case, I usually come up with something bizarre and totally random such as "I like your nose, do you wanna come home with me? ;)"

Now there are only FOUR way this will do down with:

A. She bites and says anything similar to a YES. Hold your horse boys! Remember this could be a shit test, DO NOT appear to be TOO EAGER. Instead pull back a bit and reward her for having balls to take on such an offer.

B. She makes any sort of excuse such as "I would but blah blah blah". Don't worry you're still in, it's her ASD, again push and pull work great here as well as sexual banter. Make it LIGHT and PLAYFUL please!

C. She flat-out says NO, but hey if she bothers to reply, your foot is still in the door. Just do what they do to handle AO, IGNORE it and CHANGE the topic. It ALWAYS work! I haven't had any girl bail on me after that. If she's interested enough to stay in the conversation, you have a shot to try again later.

D. She bails, no response. Just move on to the next target!

Closing.....

I don't care what everyone else told you about number closing with online sarging. FORGET IT! No matter what you do, it might work wonder in REAL LIFE but strangly enough it always comes off as creepy and needy ONLINE. They always have second thought about it when you ask for their numbers, I'm speaking from experiences.

Instead now what I do is leave them with my number and tell them to send a PICTURE along with their text so I know who they are.

Bullshit? Why would it work?

Because you're just being nonchalantly throw your number out there, she will feel less vulnerable if you offer it. If she is interested, trust me, she will CONTACT you! This is why my routine ONLY consist of 3 messages, I leave when her level of interest is at peak. But by no mean you have to FOLLOW the exact same pattern, you can banter back and forth for a bit more. But if you see her starting to get a little eager and her response is getting longer. I know it's hard to resist such a temptation for a exhilarating conversation but that is your CUE. LEAVE HER WANTING MORE!

By the way, NEVER EVER EXPLAIN the cold reading or choices for them, FEED them a little with intrigue comments like I did. You will notice the difference in their level of INTEREST.

Now the picture part, why is it IMPORTANT? I do that for:

1. To test out their compliance, if they do what you tell them to do right off the bat, you know you run a solid game and their level of interest are high.

2. It's an DHV, you're subtly telling them that you have a busy life and quite a social circle, people contact you all the time and it's hard to tell who is who.

Also leaving your number, letting them THINK that they are in power, of course they are NOT. It works in your favor because now you can move on to the next target, and stop wasting time begging for numbers. If she's hooked, she will surely contact you. If not, who cares? You're already working on bunch of other girls.

''''Conclusion...

Now you can see why I stress about adding your touch into the routine and profile. Most of my example are quite random, bizarre and have fun-I-dont-care-about-shit vibe to it, because that how I am in real life. Later on when they see me on dates, they find my real personality is quite consistent with my online one. I might be over the top confident with my profile, but quite less in real life. But guess what? She DOESN'T CARE, because the ROUTINE was personal enough for her to get a FEEL of who you are. She UNDERSTANDS first date can be awkward with all the tension, you can get AWAY with it.

The KEY point is TAILORING the routine and choices/cold reading to your personality.

If you're a timid guy, of course fun, crazy choices aren't for you. Or if you rather a shy guy, then don't pick the sexual foods/choices to ask her. You GET the IDEA!

Now let's talk about the dating sites...

OKCUPID:

- Abuse their IM system, strangely enough OKC girls are more responsive with the IM, probably because they aren't flushed with IM invites like on POF. In fact, after the first message, if you see them have the IM option turns on, hit them up and run the routine just like messaging. But I found it more effective in chat because they don't have all day to think about the responses. Also when you want to leave, just use the excuse "Shit my laptop is running out of batter, text me so we can continue"

- Be less sexual aggressive on this site, most of them are there for friendship or serious relationship. They are mostly smart girls with degrees so BE PREPARE to handle their shit tests.

- Works best for 23-29 age range.

PLENTYOFFISH

- Don't even bother with the IM, most of them won't respond.

- Let your SEX BEAST out, but don't be STUPID like bunch of other horndogs on their. Use SEXUAL INNUENDOS, you don't have to SPELL it out for them.

- Age range is vary, but don't be surprise if a lot of them have kids.

- Abuse their MEET ME section. Any girl that "want to meet you", "added you as favorite" or just viewed your profile. That's your cue, HIT them up!

- POF has a lot of girls that is ready to go, meaning there are chances that they will show up at your door in 30 min after you throw them the AO

MYYEARBOOK

- Age range 16-22. Be careful please, even if they put 18 years old, use your BRAIN!

- Running game on here is a bit different since they are mostly emotionally immature. You can use the AO line if you're with their age range, over 25 and you're running the risk of being an old pervert.

- It's more simple you can just change your AO into something casual, like a movie, hookah, etc...

- Most of them are EXTREMELY HORNY, but there are lot of ATTENTION SEEKER also. The key here is FEED them a little of attention, then TAKE it away and MAKE them WORK for it again.

- Also your luck and look can be quite a factor here. Common they're young, they will go for any ripped cute guy.

I had this HB7 basically threw herself at me because she loves Asian culture, I told her to come hang out with me, she showed up at my door couple hours later and I put a movie on. 10 min into the movie, I was already inside her. :roll:

It sounds a little bit complicated doesn't it....Here's an example of how it works:

Quote:

This is a HB8 I landed last night. I sent her the first message then saw her in chat so I IMed her.

5:55:24 pm)taohackne:Haha you're the first one who picked that choice!

(5:55:29 pm)1chick_*****:No shit! I have good reasons (Note how she jumped the loop and start qualifying)

(5:55:39 pm)taohackne:which is?

(5:55:54 pm)1chick_*****:Whipped cream contains milk, that smells funny after a while.... Also I'm a tad lactose intolerant

(5:55:56 pm)1chick_*****:And I find strawberries to be undeliciously tart

(5:56:13 pm)1chick_*****:Chocolate syrup never goes bad (Now I know she's leaning toward the romance more than pure sex from the strawberries)

(5:56:14 pm)1chick_*****:BOOM that just happened

(5:56:26 pm)1chick_*****:How are you today then?

(5:56:48 pm)taohackne: Actually those represent for certain traits in chicks, not much of foods (I'm feeding her just a little bit)

(5:57:08 pm)1chick_*****:I would like to point out my scientifical reasoning behind it

(5:57:09 pm)1chick_*****:ahem

(5:57:16 pm)1chick_*****:Do explain your hypothesis though ;)

(5:57:24 pm)taohackne:I'm all ears :P

(5:57:28 pm)1chick_*****:my interest is piqued

(5:57:51 pm)taohackne:but first, i'm gonna have you do another test, just to double check

(5:58:10 pm)1chick_*****:fuck yes, I love tests

(5:58:17 pm)1chick_*****:why else would I pay to go to college

(5:58:24 pm)taohackne:close your eyes and imagine you're by a body of water, tell me how big it is

(5:59:06 pm)1chick_*****:I'm on a beach, so it's massive... BUT, it's secluded and there is a lighthouse I'm staying at. Also it's Ireland.

(5:59:13 pm)1chick_*****:what does this mean Dr. Freud?

(6:00:09 pm)taohackne:what would you do?

(6:11:25 pm)1chick_*****:At the beach? I would walk and sit, and look at the marine life, pick at the grasses and flowers and dig in the sand, make sand angels

(6:12:14 pm)1chick_*****:Watch the sun rise, count the stars, dammit I love beaches

(Okay her sex drive is huge, but she prefer romantic setting with lot of foreplay. Got it! If you're wondering, body of water represents for SEX also)

(6:12:40 pm)taohackne:and how does doing all that make you feel?

(6:12:48 pm)1chick_*****:Fanfuckintastic (She loves sex and doesn't have the typical buyer remorse! Cheer!)

(6:12:58 pm)1chick_*****:would you like me to tell you about my mother now? Or the dream I had last night?

(6:13:19 pm)taohackne:Nah I got all I need to know

(6:13:27 pm)1chick_*****::P

(6:13:39 pm)taohackne: But guess what you're fun and quite creative! Do you wanna come home with me? ;)

(HOLD YOUR LINE, AND SHUT UP, HOLD IT BOYS.... DO NOT EVER APOLOGIZE FOR IT)

(6:13:45 pm)1chick_*****:No scantrons, how disappointing

(6:13:59 pm)1chick_*****:Aha! To the point my man!

(6:14:06 pm)1chick_*****:Not quite yet, but maybe one day :P(Shit test! I ignored it)

(6:14:34 pm)1chick_*****:Perhaps we can eat food some place and talk about BEACH LIFE and I mean the marine life, not the douchey overly tanned bleached beach life

(6:14:36 pm)1chick_*****:Ahem ;)

(This is her variation of a YES, I actually lol here since she suggested the meetup first. But I threw my AO, done with the routine, the rest is just comfort/sexual bantering)

(6:15:03 pm)taohackne: Or we can sneak into Seaworld and steal couple dolphins

(Note how I act indifferent, not too eager, took a step back and took back the lead by ignoring her plan and suggested MINE instead.)

(6:15:12 pm)1chick_*****:YES

(6:15:18 pm)1chick_*****:I'm so bloody down for that you don't even know

(6:15:28 pm)1chick_*****:I have the perfect purse to hide them in

(6:15:33 pm)1chick_*****:we will NEVER get caught

(6:15:45 pm)1chick_*****:we could go to the super market and free all the fishes there too

(6:15:49 pm)1chick_*****:I always want to do that

(6:15:50 pm)1chick_*****::/

(6:15:53 pm)taohackne:oh my this gonna be a blast

(6:16:05 pm)1chick_*****:First, we must ride the roller coasters (I could have gone into the whole rollercoaster kokology but I found out enough, I rather not overfeed her and lose the interest)

(6:16:08 pm)1chick_*****:then we can steal dolphins

(6:16:23 pm)1chick_*****:my first pet apple snail was named SHAMU

(6:16:28 pm)taohackne:screw the roller coasters, my favorite is the scream

(6:16:36 pm)1chick_*****:WHAT

(6:16:38 pm)1chick_*****:explain

(6:16:43 pm)1chick_*****:I am unfamiliarz

(6:16:54 pm)taohackne:the one that they pull you up and drop straight down

(6:17:04 pm)1chick_*****:and that's just what I would do

(6:17:06 pm)1chick_*****:fun fact

(6:17:16 pm)1chick_*****:when I get nervous as fuck I start singing strange songs

(6:17:25 pm)1chick_*****:I do this on roller coasters when we are edging to the top

(6:17:34 pm)1chick_*****:do you throw your hands up and giggle?

(6:17:37 pm)1chick_*****:I imagine you do

(6:18:05 pm)taohackne: Perfect, I like girls who isnt afraid of being themselves

(6:18:28 pm)taohackne:as long as you dont have an orgasm on the top, we'll be fine

(6:20:59 pm)1chick_*****:nah nah, being scared shitless doesn't make me all randy

(6:21:04 pm)1chick_*****:I will tell you this though

(6:21:17 pm)1chick_*****:if you dig really pale chicks, take me on those often and I will look vampiric :D

(6:21:22 pm)1chick_*****:You're part vampire anyways so

(6:21:24 pm)1chick_*****:there you go then

(6:21:36 pm)taohackne: Tell you what. I'll be in town this weekend to visit my family

(6:21:55 pm)1chick_*****:alreet

(6:22:08 pm)1chick_*****:AND THEN WHAT

(6:22:18 pm)taohackne:we're gonna grab a drink and go over the details of our dolphin operation

(6:22:23 pm)1chick_*****:Fuck yes

(6:22:35 pm)1chick_*****:you got a place in mind? Or you want I should come up with one?

(6:22:46 pm)1chick_*****:I will bring tiny printed maps of the place

(6:22:52 pm)1chick_*****:I think that info is public record

(6:23:13 pm)taohackne:haha sound fun, bring the map and we'll close our eyes and randomly pick one

(Again I took back the lead instead of leaving the planning to her)

(6:23:21 pm)1chick_*****:Done and done

(6:23:28 pm)1chick_*****:we'll think of names for the dolphins too

(6:23:36 pm)1chick_*****:we will, after all, have to go visit them frequently

(6:23:48 pm)1chick_*****:they will forever love us for FREEING THEM and give us rides to Atlantis

(6:23:53 pm)taohackne: xxx-xx-xxxx send me a pic along with your text so I know who are you

(6:24:00 pm)1chick_*****:Will do!

(6:24:11 pm)1chick_*****:Whats your real name then?

(6:24:16 pm)1chick_*****:Or, we working under secret codes

(See how her level of interest is peaking)

(6:24:21 pm)taohackne: Taohackne

(6:24:33 pm)1chick_*****:Christina

(6:24:34 pm)taohackne:and you can call me Triple S for codename

(6:24:39 pm)1chick_*****:I like that

(6:25:05 pm)1chick_*****:you can call me Wicked Smart Captain Awesome

(6:25:10 pm)1chick_*****:or just Captain Awesome

(6:25:21 pm)1chick_*****:Alreet S^3, Imma text you soon....

(6:25:40 pm)1chick_*****:so don't flip out when you get crazy texts with crazy pics from people you don't know!

(6:26:11 pm)taohackne:No nude pic naughty bunny! I'll be at crossfit training , it's too public for that

(It's always a good idea to steal her thunder and tease her before she get a chance to pull that on you)

(6:26:16 pm)1chick_*****:DAMN

(6:26:24 pm)1chick_*****:I'll just delete that boob shot then

(6:26:27 pm)1chick_*****:Nice!

(6:26:45 pm)1chick_*****:I'm going to forage for food

(Her response are getting longer and quicker for the last 3 min, that's my CUE!)

(6:27:59 pm)taohackne:I gotta run, text me so we can go over our dolphins name

(6:28:08 pm)1chick_*****:I will

(6:28:14 pm)1chick_*****:soon S^3

(6:28:18 pm)1chick_*****:it's been a damn pleasure!

(6:28:24 pm)taohackne:k later naughty bunny :)

(6:28:27 pm)1chick_*****:have fun being crossly fit!

She texted me her picture 5 minutes after this. :wink: